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• Clock has begun for Bengals to extend wide receivers Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins

Photo by Harry How/Getty Images Now that the regular season is over, Mike Brown can pay for his mistake of not extending Ja'Marr Chase before the season. The offseason is now here for the Cincinnati Bengals, and it’s one that will go a long way in defining the rest of the Joe Burrow era. The two biggest priorities for Cincinnati are locking up wide receivers Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins l...2025
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• Tuesday Trenches: Bengals get a quality win, hopefully it matters, and happy NYE

The Enquirer/Sam Greene / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images The ball finally bounced their way. Was it too little, too late? Before we get into it, Happy New Year’s Eve! You made it through another year. Regardless of how you feel about your year, you got up every morning, you put one foot in front of another and you lived. Good job! I hope 2024 was a good year for you, and I hope 2025 is...2024
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• Joe Burrow makes history again

Joe Burrow | Sam Greene/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images Burrow is having arguably the best season ever by a Bengals QB. Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow may not lay claim to the NFL’s Most Valuable Player award this year, but it’s hard to argue that anyone in the league is playing better. In Sunday afternoon’s win over the Cleveland Browns, Burrow completed 23/30...2024
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• Bengals News (12/23): Sweeping the Browns

Photo by Dylan Buell/Getty Images It has been quite awhile since the Bengals have said they swept the Browns. Joe Burrow Takes It To Another Dimension With NFL Record In Win Over Browns; Bengals Defense Has A Game Ball As Jordan Battle Makes Good On His Vow | POSTGAME QUICK HITS"That was another Houdini play right there," said wide receiver Ja’Marr Chase of the touchdown catch that gave th...2024
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• Bengals News (12/18): Carson Palmer weighs in on Joe Burrow’s frustration

Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images He’s always ready to talk about it. Bengals News Former Bengals QB Carson Palmer concerned about frustration on Joe Burrow’s face Carson Palmer spoke about the frustration he sees on the face of Cincinnati’s franchise quarterback. Bengals sign K Cade York to active roster They also made a couple of practice squad additions. NFL Announces Bengals-Broncos D...2024
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• This Week in Seahawks History: BeastQuake 2.0

Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images Are you ready for a weekly blast from the Seahawks teams of the past? This will be a weekly article series throughout the season looking back on what happened for the Seattle Seahawks 40, 30, 20, and 10 years ago this week. There’s a good beginning and end this week with a playoff win in 1984 and a classic Seahawks history moment in 2014. Let’s get...2024
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• Clock has begun for Bengals to extend wide receivers Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins
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• Tuesday Trenches: Bengals get a quality win, hopefully it matters, and happy NYE
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• Bengals News (12/18): Carson Palmer weighs in on Joe Burrow’s frustration
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• 5 things to watch when the Cowboys host the Bengals on Monday night

Photo by Ian Johnson/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Here are the things we’ll be paying the most attention to when Dallas and Cincinnati meet on Monday night. The Dallas Cowboys will be back on Monday Night Football for the second and final time this year when they host the Cincinnati Bengals. The Cowboys are riding a two-game winning streak while the Bengals have lost three straight. T...2024
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• Stats gonna hurt: Denver Bronco stat discussion after the blowout loss to the Ravens

Mitch Stringer-Imagn Images A few things to think about from the Denver Broncos 41-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. The Denver Broncos went for it five times on fourth down in the loss to the Baltimore Ravens and converted only once. During the 1994-2024 timeframe the Broncos only had two games where they went for it more on 4th down. The first was December 5th 2021. The Broncos...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: Victory Soup for the Soul

Cara Owsley/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images That was the first feel-good win of the season. The Cincinnati Bengals won on Sunday, and in doing so have reignited the fire in the fan base. They’re just a game under .500 and are reportedly actively looking to bolster their roster before Tuesday’s 4 PM trade deadline (again.... reportedly. I’d love to be proven wrong, but I d...2024
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• Comparing the first 5.5 years of the Zac Taylor and Marvin Lewis eras for the Bengals

Who wore it better? The Cincinnati Bengals will host the Las Vegas Raiders this week, marking the return of former head coach Marvin Lewis, who is now an assistant in Vegas. So, we decided that now was a good time to compare Lewis’ early Bengals tenure to that of current head coach Zac Taylor. Let’s take a look, shall we? Marvin Lewis was hired as the head coach of the Bengals in 2003. We’re not g...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: Fear

Cara Owsley/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images What scares you? There are a lot of things that scare me. I have a healthy amount of fear for anything with more than four legs. The more legs, the more I’m afraid. Things with no legs, don’t like those either. I don’t like horror movies because I’m not great with jump scares, or gore, or scary atmospheres, or a scary story, or...2024
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• Bengals have a pair of No. 1 overall NFL Draft picks in Mel Kiper’s rankings

Oct 20, 2024; Cleveland, Ohio, USA; Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow (9) warms up before the game between the Cleveland Browns and the Bengals at Huntington Bank Field. Mandatory Credit: Ken Blaze-Imagn Images | Ken Blaze-Imagn Images ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. recently ranked every No. 1 Draft pick since 1979 and put them into eight different tiers. ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. did something r...2024
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• Random Ramsdom: Florio floats Matthew Stafford for Sam Darnold trade proposal

Tim Fuller-Imagn Images Los Angeles Rams News and Links for 10/22/24 Should the Rams trade Matthew Stafford to the Vikings for Sam Darnold? Probably not. But Mike Florio expressed that the Vikings should consider the possibility on his show Pro Football Talk. Mike Florio has a bold suggestion for the Vikings roster (vikingswire) “Florio believes, that if the Vikings drop two straight ...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: What would the Bengals have done in the playoffs?

Jamie Germano/Rochester Democrat and Chronicle / USA TODAY NETWORK What would the Bengals have done had they made the NFL Playoffs? Let’s pretend the Bengals had beaten the Steelers in Week 16, and in doing so they locked up the seventh seed by beating the Browns in Week 18. Had that been the case, the Bengals would have played in the snow against Buffalo on Monday afternoon instead of th...2024
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• Clayton Tune is no ordinary rookie QB

Brad Rempel-USA TODAY Sports Why Tune may be able to start games sooner, rather than later At the 2023 NFL Draft in Kansas City, when Clayton Tune was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals in the 5th round at pick #139, he said to the Arizona media that he believes he is the best QB in his draft class. I don't know about you, but I was impressed that Clayton Tune felt the urgency to set the ba...2023
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• Monday Morning Hangover: Super Bowl 50 All About History and the Future
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• What Keeps Carson Palmer Going?
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• Bruce Arians: The NFL's Ultimate Quarterback Whisperer
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• Russell Wilson Peaking at Right Time for Highly Dangerous Seahawks
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"Cincinnati can choose to ignore that, but you don't want to see another Carson Palmer situation with Burrow."

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"Whether it’s the Bengals being cheap with free agents, not re-signing their best players, staying too committed to coaches clearly in over their head, or epically failing in the draft (when they don’t have top-five picks), we’re seeing a lot of things come into play that led to former franchise quarterback Carson Palmer essentially quit on the team before being traded away."

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"Ex-Bengals star Carson Palmer says Joe Burrow is the NFL's best QB: 'More consistent' than Patrick Mahomes"

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"Former Bengals QB Carson Palmer praises Joe Burrow's resiliency: 'He has multiple Super Bowls in the future'"

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"Former NFL quarterback Carson Palmer suggested Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was a “wild card” in USC’s search for a new head coach and that he’d be a candidate if he were interested in leaving the Steelers."

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"Carson Palmer doesn't look back at his time in Cincy too fondly"

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" Carson Palmer says every NFL playoff team can win the Super Bowl except for one "

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"Quarterback Carson Palmer has announced his retirement after completing his 14th season in the league"

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"ALL-TIME 4,000 YARD PASSING SEASONS 14 Peyton Manning 11 Drew Brees 9 Tom Brady 7 Philip Rivers 6 Dan Marino 6 Brett Favre 6 Matt Ryan 6 Aaron Rodgers 6 Carson Palmer, Eli Manning and Matthew Stafford BRADY NEARING THE TOP FOR MOST WINS AMONG ALL NFL PLAYERS."

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"Where do Tom Brady, Carson Palmer and Cam Newton fall on the list?"

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"Andy Dalton has been a solid successor to Carson Palmer with the Cincinnati Bengals, but he unfortunately suffered a fractured right thumb in Week 14 and is in doubt for the postseason."

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"The Cardinals sign QB Carson Palmer to a three-year contract extension worth a reported $50 million."

• Bengals News (12/23): Sweeping the Browns
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• Bengals News (12/14): The Arrival

Kareem Elgazzar/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK The Bengals’ 2024 first-round pick has shown great promise in his rookie year. Bengals News Amarius Mims Reflects On Impressive Rookie Year: ‘My Time Will Come’ | THE CONVERSATION Now for one of those rare things that is as advertised. Tee Higgins signs with Ja’Marr Chase’s agent, Rocky Arceneaux. Here’s what it means Cincinnati Bengals wid...2024
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• Bengals News (12/13): Head Coach Carson Palmer

Photo by Matthew Stockman/Getty Images The former Bengals QB is now a head coach. Bengals News Former Bengals Star Carson Palmer Named Head Football Coach at Santa Margarita High SchoolFormer Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer is the new head football coach at his alma mater, Santa Margarita High School. Three keys: What you should expect from Bengals vs. Tennessee TitansCincinna...2024
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• Was Carson Palmer right?

Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images Palmer effectively quit on the Bengals for being an unserious franchise. Was he right? Greetings, Bengals fans! There’s no sugarcoating it at this point. This season has been an abject failure in Cincinnati, as it seems like all of the holes in this franchise have come back to haunt this team after one of the most successful stretches it’s ever seen. Whethe...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: The more things change, the more they stay the same

Albert Cesare/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images The old idiom is no more true than it is in Cincinnati. I remember the Blockbuster Video next to the Hallmark store, which was in the same strip mall as Kmart in the town where I grew up. I remember when the Cincinnati Bengals, having already locked up a division title and a home playoff game after the 2009 season, allowed the...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: Victory Soup for the Soul
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• Comparing the first 5.5 years of the Zac Taylor and Marvin Lewis eras for the Bengals
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• Tuesday Trenches: Fear
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• Bengals have a pair of No. 1 overall NFL Draft picks in Mel Kiper’s rankings
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• Random Ramsdom: Florio floats Matthew Stafford for Sam Darnold trade proposal
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• Tuesday Trenches: Bengals get a quality win, hopefully it matters, and happy NYE
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• This Week in Seahawks History: BeastQuake 2.0
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• Notes and stats from the Buccaneers 40-17 win over the Chargers

Photo by Katelyn Mulcahy/Getty Images A high-powered offense reaches any feats. - The Tampa Bay Buccaneers defeated the Los Angeles Chargers, 40-17, to secure their fourth consecutive win. With the win, Tampa Bay improves to 8-6 and remains in sole possession of first place in the NFC South. The Buccaneers are now 8-1 (.888) in December/January games dating back to the start of the 2023 se...2024
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• Bengals News (12/14): The Arrival
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• Bengals News (12/13): Head Coach Carson Palmer
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• 5 things to watch when the Cowboys host the Bengals on Monday night
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• Large amount of Bengals fans now side with Carson Palmer

Enquirer file / USA TODAY NETWORK The name Carson Palmer is a loaded one when it comes to Cincinnati Bengals fans. He was once lauded as the savior of the city in the early 2000’s, until he very publicly threatened to retire if he wasn’t traded, which he eventually was. Now his name is whispered among Bengals fans, as saying it too loud would draw anger at its mere mention. He’s been a vil...2024
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• This Week in Seahawks History: Michael Boulware’s game-winning pick-6

Photo by Steve Grayson/Getty Images Are you ready for a weekly blast from the Seahawks teams of the past? This will be a weekly article series throughout the season looking back on what happened for the Seattle Seahawks 40, 30, 20, and 10 years ago this week. There’s a great slate of games to write about this week as the teams went a combined 4-0! The first three are pretty darn exciting ...2024
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• Stats gonna hurt: Denver Bronco stat discussion after the blowout loss to the Ravens
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• Joe Burrow makes history again
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• Bird Droppings: Arizona Cardinals riding another second half collapse, Murray’s struggles, Marvin Harrison Jr’s development and more

Photo by Mike Christy/Getty Images News and notes from around the web on your Arizona Cardinals. Happy Sunday one and all. We area heading into the biggest game of the season, and if you notice, every game since the bye week has been the biggest game of the season, and the Arizona Cardinals are 0-3 in those games. Now, they get a New England Patriots team that is better than their record. ...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: The more things change, the more they stay the same
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• Random Ramsdom: Which free agency signings haven’t panned out for LA?

Photo by Ric Tapia/Getty Images Los Angeles Rams News and Links for 10-14-24 The Los Angeles Rams added Tre’davious White, Colby Parkinson and Jonah Jackson in the offseason. According to the article linked below all three of those signings have been somewhat disappointing for LA. Do you agree with that assessment? Are there any other moves that you think LA regrets making so far? Feel fre...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: Channel your inner Sith!

Photo by Gilbert Flores/Variety via Getty Images Let the hate flow through you! I don’t think I would be mistaken to say Cincinnati Bengals fans from all eras have a chip on their shoulder. We don’t have the Super Bowl trophies the Steelers and Ravens have. We’re not delirious like Browns fans, screaming we have the best team when....... I mean, come on. We’ve watched the Bengals attempt t...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: How do you watch the Bengals?

Kareem Elgazzar/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK Live in person? Live on TV? Recorded and watched later? How do you watch the Bengals? A friend and I got season tickets for the Cincinnati Bengals, nosebleeds, mind you, the summer before the 2008 season. What could be better than watching Carson Palmer sling touchdown passes to Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmandzadeh while they dominated the AF...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: Feelings and facts

Cara Owsley/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK If I’ve learned anything from 40 years of being my own worst enemy, it’s that the two things are very different and hard to separate. When our ancestors heard rustling in a nearby bush, they either approached the situation with caution or acted like a typical sorority girl in a slasher (“What was that noise? Let’s go look!”). The latter was some...2024
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• Tuesday Trenches: Why are you a Bengals fan?

Sam Greene/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK Were you born into it? Did you adopt it? Now is your chance to tell your story. I was born in 1983 and was brought home in a Cincinnati Bengals jumper. The Bengals were fresh off a Super Bowl run, and I was being raised by a former college football player and a former tennis star. Sports were always a part of my childhood. Some of my earliest me...2024
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• Clay Matthews Offers to Help Carson Palmer Up, Fakes Him Out and Pulls Hand Away
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• Cardinals sign Palmer to 3-year extension
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• Twitter Discovers Robert Griffin III Is Unbelievably Injury Prone on 'Madden 16'
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• Arians: Palmer has torn ACL, to be put on IR
Arizona Cardinals quarterback Carson Palmer suffered a torn ACL in his left knee during Sunday's game against the St. Louis Rams and will be placed on season-ending injured reserve, coach Bruce Arians announced Monday....2014
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• Ex-Bengals star Carson Palmer says Joe Burrow is the NFL's best QB: 'More consistent' than Patrick Mahomes

Palmer drew a direct contrast between Burrow and reigning MVP Mahomes...2023
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• What ACL injury? Carson Palmer smokes Saints, now 14-2 in last 16 starts
Carson Palmer threw three touchdown passes in his first game back from a torn ACL and the Arizona Cardinals opened their season with a 31-19 victory over the New Orleans Saints on Sunday....2015
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• Arians: 'We can win the Super Bowl with Drew Stanton'
Arizona sits atop the NFC with an 8-1 record. With Carson Palmer likely out for the year, the team will turn to Drew Stanton. Bruce Arians believes the backup can lead the Cards to the Super Bowl....2014
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• DraftKings NFL Cheat Sheet: Fantasy Week 5

Week 4 of the NFL is officially in the books! The Patriots lost a heartbreaker last week against the Panthers, seeing Cam Newton drive down the field to set up Graham Gano for the game winning field goal. From a fantasy perspective, Tom Brady had another good performance, completing 32 of 45 passes for 307 yards and two touchdowns totaling 23.48 DraftKings Fantasy Points. Brady’s new favorite targ...2017
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• Monday Morning Hangover: Playoff Teams Prove It's Best to Spend Smart, Not Big
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• Shopping for Buccaneers: Why the NFL Trade Deadline Is Deadly Dull
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• Tuesday Trenches: Bengals get a quality win, hopefully it matters, and happy NYE
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• Joe Burrow makes history again
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• Bengals News (12/18): Carson Palmer weighs in on Joe Burrow’s frustration
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• This Week in Seahawks History: BeastQuake 2.0
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• Notes and stats from the Buccaneers 40-17 win over the Chargers
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• Bird Droppings: Arizona Cardinals riding another second half collapse, Murray’s struggles, Marvin Harrison Jr’s development and more
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• Tuesday Trenches: Victory Soup for the Soul
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• Bengals should call Jets about Haason Reddick in light of Hendrickson and Hubbard injuries

Bill Streicher-Imagn Images With Trey Hendrickson dealing with a stinger and Hubbard battling a bum hamstring, the Bengals have to do something. The Cincinnati Bengals won their first game of the season in Week 4 against the Carolina Panthers, but in doing so, an already injury-ridden defensive line was dealt a potential death blow when three-time Pro Bowl edge rusher Trey Hendrickson left...2024
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• Do the Giants have to draft a quarterback?

Vincent Carchietta-USA TODAY Sports The question marks begin at quarterback but don’t end there The season-ending ACL tear suffered by Daniel Jones last Sunday in Las Vegas did not ruin the New York Giants’ 2023 season. That had already happened, whether you think it was the embarrassing Monday night loss to a beatable Seattle team, the loss in Buffalo that could/should have been a victory...2023
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• No, the Bengals are not trading Tee Higgins
Photo by Cooper Neill/Getty Images Speculation is rampant, but the Bengals aren’t budging here. Just because something appears logical, doesn’t make it likely. The NFL world is having a hard time grasping that when it comes to the Cincinnati Bengals possibly trading wide receiver Tee Higgins. “Possibly” doesn’t even feel like the right word. Improbably is much more apt. The latest buzz co...2023
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• Lou Anarumo Has the Head Coaching Gravitas the Cardinals Need
Kareem Elgazzar/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK Amid yesterday’s buzz surrounding the Arizona Cardinals purported interest in Eagles’ DC Jonathan Gannon, the speculation was that Gannon could be putting together the most impressive coaching staff, particularly if he was to attract an OC like the Chiefs’ Eric Bienemy. Although, here is what PHNX Cardinals’ Howard Balzer is hearing: Not a...2023
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• Joe Burrow on Bengals: If they select me, they select me
Joe Burrow surely wants to go first overall. What NFL draft prospect doesn’t? But does the LSU quarterback want to go to the Bengals? That has become the subject of speculation after some recent comments by Burrow and the fact that Jordan Palmer, the brother of Carson Palmer, is serving as Burrow’s private quarterbacks coach [more]...2020
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• Report: NFL execs say it's 'quite clear' Bengals will draft Joe Burrow
Holding the No. 1 overall pick for the first time since they drafted Carson Palmer 17 years ago, the Bengals have been widely linked to Ohio native Joe Burrow with this selection. While Cincinnati is considering Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert and Chase Young at No. 1, the prospect of a Burrow-Bengals partnership not happening would surprise many in the NFL. It has become “quite clear” in t...2020
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• Week 9 Snap Judgments

Musings, observations and the occasional insight as we review an NFL Week 9 heavy on divisional rivalries, with all that familiarity perhaps prompting some fighting.... * Semi-serious question at midseason: Do the 8-1 Eagles really want to take a bye in Week 10, the way they’re rolling? Time off is always nice, but Philadelphia has everything working these days, and its’ 51-23 destruction of visit...2017
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