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• Can Tanner McKee be an NFL starter this season? Why the Eagles would be wise not to trade their No. 2 QB

McKee looks like an NFL starter down the line...2025
• Why Tanner McKee is invaluable to the Eagles

The city of backup quarterbacks continues to shine when it comes to the QB2 spot. Philadelphia, a place that has seen not one, but two players who were originally brought in to be benchwarmers win Super Bowl MVP, has a new favorite son in third-year signal-caller Tanner McKee. McKee dazzled in the preseason on Thursday […]...2025
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• Eagles News: “Tanner McKee is a starting-caliber backup quarterback”

Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links … Eagles 34, Bengals 27: Tanner McKee is a starting-caliber QB, No. 2 cornerback still a question, remember Darius Cooper & more takeaways – PHLYTanner McKee is a starting-caliber backup quarterback. The McKee hype has been warranted this summer, and it was cemented by McKee going 20 of […]...2025
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• Eagles backup QB Tanner McKee dominates preseason opener; Chargers lose Pro Bowl LT for entire season

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• Eagles vs. Bengals Preseason: The good, the bad, and the ugly

It was a preseason game where nothing was supposed to matter, though it did matter to a bunch of guys competing for spots on the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles. It means a talent-rich team is even deeper. Tanner McKee looked very good, as did right guard Tyler Steen, running back Will Shipley, receivers Ainias […]...2025
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• Eagles takeaways from preseason opener: Tanner McKee shows he's top-32 QB in NFL; Will Shipley proves he's RB2

McKee showed he's more than just a backup quarterback...2025

• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Quinyon Mitchell nabs interception while being named to NFL Top 100

Kyle Ross-Imagn Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the ninth Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The padded session lasted for about one hour and 45 minutes. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOTES Nick Sirianni had the Eagles working on a lot of situational football on Monday. Offense backed up ag...2025
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• Philadelphia Eagles depth chart revealed ahead of first preseason game

Bill Streicher-Imagn Images Officially unofficial. The Philadelphia Eagles’ first team-issued depth chart ahead of the 2025 NFL season is here! And now to immediately tamper the excitement: it doesn’t mean much. It’s not like this depth chart is carefully crated with insight from the front office and coaches. It literally says “Compiled by the Eagles Communications department” (AKA the PR...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Is Eli Ricks the dark horse in the cornerback competition?

Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the eighth Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The padded session lasted for about one hour and 40 minutes. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOTES JALEN HURTS UPDATE: Hurts was solid yet unspectacular. He hit a crossing DeVonta Smith...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Saquon Barkley looks primed for another big season

Photo by Emilee Chinn/Getty Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the seventh Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The fully padded session lasted for about two hours; it was the longest practice of camp so far. Also the nicest weather we’ve had thus far with overcast skies and temps just below 70 degrees. Here’s what I observed at ...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Rookie linebackers making plays

Photo by Terence Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the sixth Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The partially padded session lasted for about 80 minutes. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOTES JALEN HURTS UPDATE: Hurts had a good start to practice. He made a nice...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Jeremiah Trotter Jr. isn’t going down without a fight

Photo by Sean Gardner/Getty Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the fifth Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The fully padded session (first of the summer), which started an hour earlier than originally scheduled due to heat concerns, lasted for about two hours. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOT...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Quinyon Mitchell looks really good entering Year 2

Kyle Ross-Imagn Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the fourth Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The partially padded (shoulder pads and shorts) session lasted for about an hour and 40 minutes. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOTES JALEN HURTS UPDATE: Hurts looked pretty sharp through the two me...2025
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• The Linc - Jalen Hurts and Jordan Mailata talk about moving on from Super Bowl success

Kyle Ross-Imagn Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 7/24/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... Jalen Hurts says he’s focused on the new and not his Eagles Super Bowl ring: ‘The past is behind us’ - InquirerIn another photo, the 26-year-old quarterback sat on a sofa with Brandon Graham, who had a Super Bowl ring on each hand. A ringless Hurts simply pointed his left ...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Cooper DeJean plays safety, Jihaad Campbell ahead of schedule, and much more

Kyle Ross-Imagn Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the first Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season! The non-padded session lasted for about 70 minutes. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOTES JALEN HURTS UPDATE: The reigning Super Bowl MVP picked up right where he left off in the spring. The ball rare...2025
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• Philadelphia Eagles training camp preview: 53-man roster prediction

Kyle Ross-Imagn Images Projecting how position battles could play out. Philadelphia Eagles training camp is here! Players reported to the NovaCare Complex on Tuesday, July 22 ahead of the team’s first practice on Wednesday, July 23. While we still have some time to kill, let’s run through everyone’s favorite summer activity: a 53-player roster prediction. The objective here is to get an e...2025
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• Eagles Minicamp Practice Notes: Jalen Hurts caps off strong spring

Kyle Ross-Imagn Images Observations from Tuesday’s session at the NovaCare Complex. The reigning Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles held their one and only mandatory minicamp practice on Tuesday afternoon and I was at the NovaCare Complex to watch the action unfold. Here’s what I saw! ATTENDANCE UPDATES: The Eagles had perfect attendance. They’re not one of these teams dealing with ...2025
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"Eagles' Tanner McKee proves worthy of QB2 role down the line after impressive effort in Week 18 win"

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"Half of Tanner McKee’s career pass attempts have gone for touchdowns."

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"Eagles overreactions and reality checks, preseason Game 2: Marcus Mariota's job in jeopardy? Tanner McKee QB2?"

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"Stanford quarterback Tanner McKee is forgoing his remaining college eligibility to enter the 2023 NFL draft."

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"QBs Matt Corral (LB Poly) and Tanner McKee (Centennial) Co-Players of the Week"

• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Quinyon Mitchell nabs interception while being named to NFL Top 100
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• The Linc - Eagles believe Tyler Steen is ready to start at right guard

Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 8/4/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... 2025 NFL training camp news, buzz, fantasy football updates - ESPNPersonnel-wise, things stayed pretty much the same for the Eagles on offense. The only starter they lost to free agency was Mekhi Becton, who played very well for them at right guard after signin...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Is Eli Ricks the dark horse in the cornerback competition?
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Saquon Barkley looks primed for another big season
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Rookie linebackers making plays
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Jeremiah Trotter Jr. isn’t going down without a fight
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Quinyon Mitchell looks really good entering Year 2
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Jihaad Campbell sees some first-team reps

Photo by Terence Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the third Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The non-padded session lasted for about an hour and 40 minutes. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOTES JALEN HURTS UPDATE: This was easily Hurts’ worst practice of the ...2025
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Position battle updates

Photo by Terence Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Observations from the NovaCare Complex. Today marked the second Philadelphia Eagles training camp practice ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The non-padded session lasted for about 90 minutes. Here’s what I observed at the NovaCare Complex. EAGLES PRACTICE NOTES JALEN HURTS UPDATE: Yet another day where the ball rarely hit the ground. B...2025
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• The Linc - Jalen Hurts and Jordan Mailata talk about moving on from Super Bowl success
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Rookie linebackers making plays
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Jeremiah Trotter Jr. isn’t going down without a fight
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• Jahan Dotson leads 5 Eagles players ready to make “the leap” in 2025

Photo by Focus on Sport/Getty Images The Eagles finally have a No. 3 receiver Jalen Hurts seems to trust. For a team to win the Super Bowl, contributions must come from ascending players who see a jump in performance and production from one year to the next. Last year, a number of Eagles players made “the leap.” Zack Baun. Nolan Smith. Milton Williams. Nakobe Dean (before he got hurt). Mek...2025
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• Eagles 53-man roster prediction: Post-OTAs and minicamp projection

Photo by Terence Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Here’s an updated look at what the 2025 Philadelphia Eagles could look like. We previously published a Philadelphia Eagles 53-man roster prediction prior to their spring practices. Since then, we’ve learned more about the team through watching their OTAs and minicamp. And so now it’s time for an updated projection that accounts for th...2025
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• The Linc - Cooper DeJean dubbed best slot cornerback in the NFL

Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 6/20/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... NFL luxury players in 2025 season: Best slot CB, backup QB, more - ESPNSlot cornerback: Cooper DeJean, Philadelphia Eagles. Yes, he’s already there. DeJean spent the first month of his rookie season on the sideline, but after Philadelphia’s Week 5 bye, his mo...2025
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• 14 winners from the Eagles’ spring practices

Kyle Ross-Imagn Images Stock report from OTAs and mandatory minicamp. The Philadelphia Eagles officially wrapped up their spring offseason workout program last week. Now let’s take a look at the winners, losers, and I don’t knows that stood out from three media-attended practices (two days of voluntary OTAs and one mandatory minicamp session). Disclaimer: These were non-contact drills (no ...2025
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• The Linc - Kelee Ringo is making his case to start

Bill Streicher-Imagn Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 6/11/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... Eagles Minicamp Practice Notes: Jalen Hurts caps off strong spring - BGNPOSITION BATTLE UPDATE — CORNERBACK: Kelee Ringo broke up a Tanner McKee throw to Danny Gray on a comeback. Then he had a leaping breakup on a McKee jump ball throw to Terrace Marshall. Not the be...2025
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• The Linc - Eagles have the most complete team in the NFL

Photo by Emilee Chinn/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 6/2/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... Top 10 most complete NFL teams for 2025 season: Bills, Eagles, Lions among well-rounded squads - NFL.com1) PHILADELPHIA EAGLES. They incurred free-agent losses this offseason befitting of a Super Bowl champion and a franchise that has won 45 games (including pla...2025
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• Eagles Film Review: Kyle McCord could eventually develop into a backup quarterback

Photo by Bryan M. Bennett/Getty Images A closer look at Philadelphia’s seventh pick in the 2025 NFL Draft. With the 2025 NFL Draft over, it’s time for some film rooms on the Philadelphia Eagles’ rookie class. I will try to get to all 10 draft picks and the UDFAs over the next few weeks. Loads of scouting reports will say very similar things, so I have tried to include film clips to back up...2025
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• The Linc - The Eagles’ top bounce-back candidate

Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 5/27/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... One bounce-back candidate for all 32 NFL teams in 2025 - PFFPhiladelphia Eagles: ED Bryce Huff. Huff’s first season in Philadelphia couldn’t have gone much worse. He lost his starting job by Week 9 and was a non-factor during the Eagles’ Super Bowl run. His 15...2025
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• The Linc - Eagles believe Tyler Steen is ready to start at right guard
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Is Eli Ricks the dark horse in the cornerback competition?
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Saquon Barkley looks primed for another big season
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Jeremiah Trotter Jr. isn’t going down without a fight
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• The Linc - Jalen Hurts and Jordan Mailata talk about moving on from Super Bowl success
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• The Linc - ESPN says the Eagles should add another wide receiver

Photo by Timothy Nwachukwu/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 7/1/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... Proposing one final offseason move for all 32 NFL teams - ESPNPhiladelphia Eagles: Sign wide receiver Tyler Boyd. What do you suggest for the team that has basically everything? I can’t even really suggest a contract extension here; Philadelphia’s top young...2025
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• 14 winners from the Eagles’ spring practices
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• The Linc - Kelee Ringo is making his case to start
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• The Linc - What is Tanner McKee’s trade value?

Bill Streicher-Imagn Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 6/1/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... In Roob’s Observations: What would it take for Howie Roseman to trade Tanner McKee? - NBCSP1. The one OTA practice the media was allowed to watch so far was a laid-back indoor session that lasted about 82 minutes and was filled with a bunch of individual periods. There...2025
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• The Linc - The Eagles’ top bounce-back candidate
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• Eagles' Tanner McKee proves worthy of QB2 role down the line after impressive effort in Week 18 win

McKee had an impressive first start in the Eagles' regular-season finale...2025
• Eagles overreactions and reality checks, preseason Game 2: Marcus Mariota's job in jeopardy? Tanner McKee QB2?

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• Sean McVay gives discouraging update on Stetson Bennett

Isaiah J. Downing-USA TODAY Sports Sean McVay says Rams do not expect Stetson Bennett to play this season The Los Angeles Rams have not been asked to address the Stetson Bennett situation many times during the season but that changed when Matthew Stafford exited Sunday’s loss to the Dallas Cowboys with a hand injury. Head coach Sean McVay was asked what the status of L.A.’s rookie fourth r...2023
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• Mock draft roundup 17.0: Bijan Robinson sees uptick in projections to Lions
Trevor Ruszkowski-USA TODAY Sports Taking a closer look at the prospects from the 2023 NFL Draft that have been projected to the Detroit Lions over the past week. If you’re not familiar with how the Detroit Lions roundup works, each week we collect data from the latest expert mock drafts published over the last seven days and compile them (with links to the original pieces) in one easy-to-...2023
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• 5 biggest takeaways from the Lions’ 2022 season, Part 1: Players
Photo by Patrick McDermott/Getty Images The Detroit Lions made many strides in 2022 thanks to their players. For a 9-8 team, the Detroit Lions were a breath of fresh air. After Year 1 of the Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes era, the Lions had more hope than talent. An early draft pick would certainly set the Lions up to get an important contributor, but they needed more to actually make the ju...2023
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• 5 quarterbacks the Browns could realistically sign right now

Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images “Deshaun Watson is broken and the backups are not good. So, what can Cleveland do now?” Before the 2023 season even began, in fact, the whispers began in training camp, that the Cleveland Browns have a very good roster this year. The speculation was the easy part. Playing the actual games is the tough get-going and where men become men on a mission. Curr...2023
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• Quarterback controversy emerging in Philadelphia?!

Half of Tanner McKee’s career pass attempts have gone for touchdowns. Makes you think. | Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images With Jalen Hurts and Kenny Pickett both injured, is second year man Tanner McKee the guy going forward? With star QB Jalen Hurts out with a concussion symptoms and backup Kenny Pickett leaving the game today after a hard hit from Dallas Cowboys podcaster Micah Parson...2024
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• The Linc - “Tanner McKee is better than Kenny Pickett. And it’s not even close.”

Brian Fluharty-USA TODAY Sports Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 8/16/24. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... Roob’s Instant Observations: Tanner McKee shows Kenny Pickett how it’s done - NBCSPTanner McKee is better than Kenny Pickett. And it’s not even close. And there are other takeaways from the Eagles’ 14-13 preseason win over the Patriots Thursday night at Gillette St...2024
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• The Linc - Eagles believe Tyler Steen is ready to start at right guard
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• The Linc - Eagles rookie class ranked second-best in the NFL

Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 1/4/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... Ranking the top five rookie classes of the 2024 NFL season: Commanders, Eagles struck gold - NFL.com2) PHILADELPHIA EAGLES. [...] Last season, Philly’s defense ranked 31st against the pass, 26th overall and 30th in points allowed, and the team fizzled in the Wil...2025
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• Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts will sit in Week 18
No decision yet on who the starting QB will be #Eagles HC Nick Sirianni: "We're gonna rest some guys" on Sunday. Saquon Barkley will be one. QB Jalen Hurts is still in concussion protocol, per Nick Sirianni. A decision hasn’t been made on who will start at QB on Sunday in light of Kenny Pickett’s rib injury. Could be Tanner McKee. (Jeff McLane on X) FF Today's Take: Eric Dickerson...2025
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• The Linc - Micah Parsons says Eagles are the NFL’s best team and they have no weaknesses

Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 10/25/23. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... Are the Eagles the best team in the league? pic.twitter.com/ks8W3ftAlq— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) October 24, 2023 5 things to know about new Eagles safety Kevin Byard - BGN1 - How would you recap Byard’s time with the Titans? Kevin Byard will one day ...2023
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• The Rams need to draft a quarterback
C.J Stroud played his best games on college football’s biggest stages | Photo by Todd Kirkland/Getty Images History says it must be a Top 100 pick to be successful Back in March, I asked if the Los Angeles Rams should trade up to draft quarterback Anthony Richardson. Why? Because the potential payoff on drafting a star QB makes it the ultimate “reach” position. But what about the rest of ...2023
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• Eagles News: “Tanner McKee is a starting-caliber backup quarterback”
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Quinyon Mitchell nabs interception while being named to NFL Top 100
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• Philadelphia Eagles depth chart revealed ahead of first preseason game
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• The Linc - Eagles believe Tyler Steen is ready to start at right guard
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Is Eli Ricks the dark horse in the cornerback competition?
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Saquon Barkley looks primed for another big season
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Rookie linebackers making plays
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Jeremiah Trotter Jr. isn’t going down without a fight
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Quinyon Mitchell looks really good entering Year 2
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Jihaad Campbell sees some first-team reps
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• The Linc - Eagles believe Tyler Steen is ready to start at right guard
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• Eagles Training Camp Practice Notes: Position battle updates
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• Eagles 53-man roster prediction as OTAs begin

Photo by Kathryn Riley/Getty Images Here’s an early projection of what the 2025 Philadelphia Eagles will look like. We previously spent time projecting the Philadelphia Eagles’ depth chart for the 2025 NFL season. We started with the offense, moved on to the defense, and then finished up with the special teams unit. With OTAs starting up today, it’s now time for a prediction of who will ac...2025
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• Eagles 2025 NFL Draft class analysis

Photo by Perry Knotts/Getty Images Taking a closer look at Philadelphia’s 10 new rookies. Let’s analyze the 10 picks the Philadelphia Eagles made in the 2025 NFL Draft. Jihaad Campbell, Linebacker, Alabama Key Measurables: 6’2”, 235 Pounds, 4.52 40-Yard Dash (1.52 10-yard) Key Stat: Generated 20 Pressures on only 99 Pass-Rush Snaps in 2024 The Eagles broke convention in a big way with the...2025
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• The Linc - Adam Schefter say the Eagles are “more likely to shed more salary than acquire more salary”

Kara Durrette/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 3/12/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... “I think they are more likely to shed more salary than acquire more salary. That’s how I feel right now. So, you’re asking if there’s a trick up their sleeve? No, again, I think they are more likely to shed – shed – more salaries, make more moves the other way, more o...2025
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• Eagles stay or go results for the 2025 offseason

Photo by Brandon Sloter/Getty Images Here’s a look at the final standings. Our “stay or go” series for the Eagles’ 2025 offseason is over so now it’s time to look back at the fan voting results from polls conducted here at Bleeding Green Nation! QUARTERBACK — [OUTLOOK] JALEN HURTS — 98% stay Super Bowl MVP! TANNER MCKEE — 98% stay QB3 is now QB2. KENNY PICKETT — 13% stay He’s gone. Trad...2025
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• The Linc - Jordan Mailata praises Kellen Moore: “The schemes are just bulletproof”

Photo by Cooper Neill/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 1/19/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... This Eagles coach plays ‘chess’ on the field and could be doing so as a head coach next season - NJ.comLeft tackle Jordan Mailata said Moore’s interviews are well-deserved, crediting him with the offense’s success this season. Mailata praised Moore’s ability to ...2025
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• The Linc - Eagles faced the easiest schedule of opposing defenses this season by far

Photo by Scott Taetsch/Getty Images Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 1/8/25. Let’s get to the Philadelphia Eagles links ... NFL Week 18 Under Review: Baffling Decisions by the Jaguars and Giants Kick Off the 2025 Hiring Cycle - The RingerHere’s one thought on every NFC wild-card game. Packers at Eagles: The Eagles have faced the NFL’s easiest schedule of defenses. The Eagles’ offensi...2025
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• Eagles-Giants Film Review: Tanner McKee should be QB2

Photo by Kathryn Riley/Getty Images Offensive and defensive analysis from Philadelphia’s Week 18 win over New York. Right, this is going to be a quick Eagles review so I can watch some Packers film. I will have a playoff preview out at the end of the week. I didn’t want to completely ignore the Giants’ game because we did get to see some interesting backups, so here are a few very quick po...2025
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• Eagles vs. Giants: 14 winners, 2 losers, and 2 IDKs

Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images Highlight performances from Philadelphia’s Week 18 win. The Philadelphia Eagles are 14-3 after beating the New York Giants! Second time in franchise history the Eagles have won 14 regular season games ... with the first coming all the way back in 2022. Time to hand out some winners, losers, and IDKs. WINNERS THE RESTED The Eagles were able to rest their ...2025
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