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• Former Saints TE Jack Stoll signs with Browns

Former New Orleans Saints TE Jack Stoll has agreed to a one-year deal with the Cleveland Browns after just one season in New Orleans. After the Saints’ recent addition of veteran TE Noah Fant, Stoll’s role with New Orleans was uncertain, and he now joins a Browns team in need of a reliable blocking tight […]...2026
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• SB Nation Reacts Survey: How would you grade the Saints first week of free agency?

It has only been 2 days since the unofficial start of free agency and the New Orleans Saints have taken off running with the signings of RB Travis Etienne, OG David Edwards, P Ryan Wright and TE Noah Fant, re-signing of John Ridgeway III as well as restructuring several player’s contracts. Unfortunately, they will be […]...2026
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• Besson’s mock draft 3.0: After free agency Day 1

The New Orleans Saints just wrapped up an exciting day of free agency. Adding Travis Etienne, David Edwards, and Noah Fant boosts the Saints’ offense significantly. While there’s still much more free agency to go, and New Orleans is far from done, it’s time for another mock draft. 1.8: WR Carnell Tate, Ohio State Maybe […]...2026
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• Saints sign TE Noah Fant

The New Orleans Saints had some big signings on the first day of free agency, but one of the more under-the-radar ones was in the TE room. Last offseason, the Saints re-signed Juwan Johnson to a big contract, but many fans wanted more done. One of the available names was former Seattle Seahawks TE Noah […]...2026
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• The Zac Taylor era with Cincinnati Bengals should end, even if it won’t in 2026

The Bengals’ 2025 season ends in the most poetic way as the Cleveland Browns come to Paycor Stadium and pick up a week 18 win over Cincinnati, 20-18. The Bengals beat themselves (yet again) with a Joe Burrow 97-yard pick-six, and Noah Fant’s fumble returned for a touchdown, gifting the Browns 14 of their 20 […]...2026
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• The biggest training camp battles to watch for the Cincinnati Bengals

Kareem Elgazzar-Imagn Images What are the key competitions to watch? Training camp has begun! What are the key competitions to look at as the roster and depth chart shake out over the next few weeks? Here are the position battles to watch for the Cincinnati Bengals. Right Guard - Lucas Patrick vs. Cody Ford It’s always something, isn’t it? We can’t just have one year where we feel really g...2025
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• Bengals to host Noah Fant for a free agent visit

Photo by Michael Hickey/Getty Images Big news! The Cincinnati Bengals are set to host one of the top available NFL free agents. According to Fox Sports’ Jordan Schultz, the Bengals will host tight end Noah Fant for a visit on Thursday. Fant was recently a cap casualty with the Seattle Seahawks. A first-round NFL Draft pick in 2019 by way of the Denver Broncos, Fant has appeared in 95 care...2025
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• Seahawks announce signing of big free agent one day after releasing Noah Fant

Photo by Ric Tapia/Getty Images With questions swirling about depth on the interior of the defensive line, Seattle addressed the position signing a free agent nose tackle. It has been barely a day since the the Seattle Seahawks created an open roster spot with the release of tight end Noah Fant, and on Monday afternoon the team has announced that it had created a second open roster spot. ...2025
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• Arrowheadlines: Chiefs to ‘progress as normal’ with Rashee Rice

Jayne Kamin-Oncea-Imagn Images Chiefs headlines for Monday, July 21 The latest NFL’s 10 biggest position battles for 2025 training camps | SB Nation Who wins the left tackle job in Kansas City? Along the way to Super Bowl LIX many experts pointed to the offensive line as a potential problem for the Kansas City Chiefs. Yet as they rolled through the regular season and into the playoffs, Pa...2025
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• Big game hunting: Should the Seahawks trade for Jalen Ramsey?

Joe Nicholson-Imagn Images With plenty of stars still available this offseason, could DK Metcalf’s rival end up in Seattle? As we head into the summer months of the NFL offseason, there are still a few big storylines and questions that need to be answered before training camps. One of those big questions is where will Super Bowl champion cornerback Jalen Ramsey end up in 2025. Ramsey, one ...2025
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• PFF ranks Seahawks receiving corps as worst in NFC West

Steven Bisig-Imagn Images This includes more than just wide receivers, too. The Seattle Seahawks made some changes to their wide receiver group, to put it mildly. DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett are gone, while Cooper Kupp, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, and rookies Tory Horton and Ricky White III are in. Jaxon Smith-Njigba is all but assured to be the No. 1 option at receiver after being Seattle’...2025
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• Let’s chat: Which Seahawks players are on the roster bubble following the NFL Draft?

Photo by Cooper Neill/Getty Images The NFL Draft has come and gone. Who on the current Seahawks roster could be on shaky ground following Seattle’s draft class? The Seattle Seahawks made 11 picks in the 2025 NFL Draft, tying a league high for largest class. Seattle kicked off its draft with North Dakota State offensive lineman Grey Zabel and wrapped it up by taking UNLV receiver and specia...2025
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• Seahawks 2025 full 7-round mock draft: Final projections plus a bold trade

Photo by John Smolek/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images It’s mock draft 3.0 and the final mock before the NFL draft kicks off Thursday night. It is finally here! NFL Draft week is upon us, as the football world descends upon Green Bay, Wisconsin for the 2025 draft. As we head into the final hours before the Seattle Seahawks draft the next group of hopeful stars that will help them return to ...2025
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• Why drafting a wide receiver early is a must for the Seahawks

Photo by Brooke Sutton/Getty Images The Seahawks do not have a deep receiving group for 2025 and have a scarce cupboard for 2026. The Seattle Seahawks’ makeover of the offense may lead with the decision to trade quarterback Geno Smith and sign Sam Darnold, but as big a story is the overhaul of the wide receiver group. Tyler Lockett? Seahawks legend, but no longer on the team. DK Metcalf? W...2025
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• NFL Draft preview: What if the Seahawks don’t draft an offensive lineman at No. 18?

Ricardo B. Brazziell/American-Statesman / USA TODAY NETWORK / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images There are still plenty of talented options for the Seahawks if they don’t take an offensive lineman in Round 1. Calm down. First of all, if you agreed to click and read the article even after reading the title, I thank you. Fans spent the day after the Seattle Seahawks’ last game of 2024 season...2025
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 1: The Vibes Are Back

Photo by Jane Gershovich/Getty Images The Seattle Seahawks kicked off the Mike Macdonald era with a 26-20 victory over the Denver Broncos ***As most of you know, Cigar Thoughts is now a podcast. Check out our recent conversation with The Athletic’s Jourdan Rodrigue: — Welcome back to real football, friends. And welcome back to the Cigar Thoughts articles. The Seahawks stepped into a new e...2024
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"The Bengals beat themselves (yet again) with a Joe Burrow 97-yard pick-six, and Noah Fant’s fumble returned for a touchdown, gifting the Browns 14 of their 20 […]"

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"According to Fox Sports’ Jordan Schultz, the Bengals will host tight end Noah Fant for a visit on Thursday."

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"Broncos receive QB Russell Wilson DL Eyioma Uwazurike (2022 - 4th round pick), currently suspended Seahawks receive QB Drew Lock TE Noah Fant IDL Shelby Harris OT Charles Cross (2022 - 1st round pick) OLB Boye Mafe (2022 - 2nd round pick) OLB Tyreke Smith (2022 - 5th round pick) CB Devon Witherspoon (2023 - 1st round pick) EDGE Derick Hall (2023 - 2nd round pick) After they completed this historic trade, they wanted to lock up their newly acquired franchise quarterback for the future."

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"Then Geno Smith hit DK Metcalf for 20 over the middle and chased it with a completion to Noah Fant on a play-action rollout for seven more."

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"Seahawks' Noah Fant discusses trade from Broncos, Seattle QB battle and the new chip on his shoulder"

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"Broncos place Noah Fant on COVID-19 list after he reportedly tests positive; Week 9 status vs. Dallas in doubt"

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• Former Saints TE Jack Stoll signs with Browns
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• SB Nation Reacts Survey: How would you grade the Saints first week of free agency?
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• Besson’s mock draft 3.0: After free agency Day 1
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• Saints sign TE Noah Fant
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• The biggest training camp battles to watch for the Cincinnati Bengals
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• Bengals News (7/25): Noah Fant leaves Cincinnati visit

Photo by Nic Antaya/Getty Images Noah Fant leaves Cincinnati without a deal. We will see if the Bengals are still in consideration. Bengals Training Camp Recap Day 2"I went to Joe after (Wednesday's) practice, asked him what he thought. I thought we didn't do so well, but I told him don't dwell on it," Chase said. "Because, let Tee (Higgins) make two of those catches, he wouldn't be feelin...2025
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• Bengals News (7/24): How to end Trey Hendrickson contract dispute

Photo by Cooper Neill/Getty Images What needs to change to get Trey Hendrickson under contract? Agent's Take: How Trey Hendrickson and Bengals can find common ground to keep star pass rusher in Cincinnati - CBSSports.comHendrickson wanting his contract structured in a similar manner isn't an unreasonable request. A complicating factor is the Bengals hadn't given traditional salary guarante...2025
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• Bengals to host Noah Fant for a free agent visit
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• Seahawks announce signing of big free agent one day after releasing Noah Fant
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• Arrowheadlines: Chiefs to ‘progress as normal’ with Rashee Rice
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• Bengals News (7/24): How to end Trey Hendrickson contract dispute
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• Arrowheadlines: Chiefs to ‘progress as normal’ with Rashee Rice
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• Seahawks 2025 full 7-round mock draft: Final projections plus a bold trade
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• Seahawks 2025 7-round mock draft 3.0: Now or never

Tim Heitman-Imagn Images The mock drafts are winding down. Which players could be coming to Seattle? This is my last Seattle Seahawks mock draft of the season. All the important events have already passed. Free agency has also come and gone, teams have strengthened and some gaps remain open. The idea is to fill them during the draft, in Seattle’s case, the OL is the main focus, or at least...2025
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• Do Rams need to resist urge on drafting a tight end in first round?

Photo by James Black/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Should the Rams avoid taking Tyler Warren or Colston Loveland in the first round? Over the last two drafts, the Los Angeles Rams and head coach Sean McVay have shown interest in selecting a tight end early in the draft. During the 2023 NFL Draft, the Rams attempted to trade into the first round to select tight end Dalton Kincaid. When ...2025
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• Seahawks 2025 full 7-round mock draft following first week of free agency

Gary Vasquez-USA TODAY Sports With some major changes to the roster, it’s time to start mocking how this new-look Seahawks team could come together at the NFL Draft. After a franchise-altering week that saw the mass exodus of some of the most recognizable Seattle Seahawks, John Schneider went to work and has begun the process of reloading (or rebuilding) this team in his and Mike Macdonald...2025
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• Seahawks Film Analysis: Dream or nightmare? Sam Darnold is the Seahawks’ new QB

Kirby Lee-Imagn Images The Seahawks have a new quarterback to replace Geno Smith. Is Sam Darnold a long-term answer at the position for Seattle? After much speculation about Geno Smith’s future, the Seahawks have a new QB. Soon after the Geno Smith trade was completed, QB Sam Darnold was increasingly talked about in Seattle. So, as soon as free agency began, the Seahawks made their decisio...2025
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• Cigar Thoughts: The Final Chapter

It’s been an honor. “No mother knows she is hearing the word Mama for the last time. No father knows when the book has closed on the last bedtime story he will ever read.” — Jonathan Safron Foer (my favorite author) I’ve been recapping Seattle Seahawks games for 13 seasons, and I never expected Cigar Thoughts to become what it has. The community of fans, especially here at Field Gulls, has been in...2025
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• Winners and Losers from Seahawks 30, Rams 25

Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images The Seahawks get to 10 wins for the first time since 2020. The Seattle Seahawks’ 2024 season has come to an end. While we obviously would’ve loved to see the Seahawks play a little deeper into January, it wasn’t meant to be. They at least won their finale, squeaking past the Los Angeles Rams’ mixture of starters and backups in a pretty entert...2025
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 15: Closer, but no cigar

Joe Nicholson-Imagn Images The Seattle Seahawks gave the Minnesota Vikings everything they had, falling short 27-24 The Minnesota Vikings traveled to Seattle with a 12-2 record that a lot of people across the NFL have been quick to devalue. But make no mistake, the Vikings are a good fucking team and today, the Seahawks gave them everything they could handle. And while the 27-24 loss deepl...2024
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• Arrowheadlines: Chiefs to ‘progress as normal’ with Rashee Rice
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• Brady Russell gets married, re-signs with Seahawks

Mark J. Rebilas-Imagn Images Congratulations are in order for the Seahawks’ versatile tight end/auxiliary fullback. Seattle Seahawks tight end Brady Russell has had a positively eventful past several days. On a personal level, Russell tied the knot with his fiancée Annie. They were married in Washington on March 30 and will have a wedding celebration later this summer. The Russells. Co...2025
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• Geno Smith says Seahawks are heading in right direction ‘with or without me’

Photo by Ric Tapia/Getty Images While Smith acknowledges his future with the Seahawks is far from certain, he’s certain Seattle is on the right track back to contention. Geno Smith’s first meaningful snaps as Seattle Seahawks quarterback came against the Los Angeles Rams way back in 2021. Is it possible that his last appearance in a Seahawks uniform will also be against the Rams? We won’t ...2025
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• Winners and Losers from Seahawks 30, Rams 25
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 15: Closer, but no cigar
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• Sam Howell’s relief appearance for Geno Smith couldn’t have gone much worse

Photo by Jane Gershovich/Getty Images The Seahawks’ backup quarterback made a bleak situation fully unrecoverable after replacing an injured Geno Smith. For all intents and purposes, despite having one handoff snap against the Atlanta Falcons, backup quarterback Sam Howell made his Seattle Seahawks debut on Sunday night against the Green Bay Packers. It did not go well. Geno Smith’s knee i...2024
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 7: Seahawks lead wire-to-wire in must-win game against Falcons

Photo by Todd Kirkland/Getty Images The Seattle Seahawks took an early lead and extended it throughout their 34-14 victory, moving back into first place in the NFC West. ***As most of you know, Cigar Thoughts is also a podcast. Check out this week’s conversation with Bomani Jones: — Guys, I can’t tell you how much I’ve enjoyed writing this column over the last 13(!) years. It is with equa...2024
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• Winners and Losers from Seahawks 34, Falcons 14

Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images The Seahawks are back in the win column in a big way. As expected, the struggling Seattle Seahawks went down to Georgia to take on the surging Atlanta Falcons and a blowout ensued. Oh wait, the Seahawks won?! Damn right the Seahawks won. They never trailed and wiped out a team that hadn’t trailed by multiple possessions all season. Whatever makes Seattle...2024
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• Winners and Losers for 49ers 36, Seahawks 24

Photo by Jane Gershovich/Getty Images Surprise, surprise. The Seahawks weren’t particularly close to beating the 49ers. Did you expect anything else? I’ll praise the Seattle Seahawks for fighting back from 23-3 against the San Francisco 49ers, but there ain’t much else to praise. If the 49ers were a serious team in the red zone like they usually are, this would’ve been done by halftime. Si...2024
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• Mile High Morning: How much could Noah Fant improve in his second season?
It's not just Drew Lock who could be a big winner for the Broncos in 2020 because of their offensive additions....2020
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• Mile High Morning: Pro Football Focus predicts top-10 fantasy season for Noah Fant among tight ends
Fant is "arguably the prime late-ish round TE of 2020," Pro Football Focus' Ian Harlitz wrote....2020
• #BroncosCamp preview: What to expect from Noah Fant and the Broncos' tight ends
While Fant will continue to lead the group, the position group will look different behind him....2020
• Cigar Thoughts, Game 3: Seahawks play with their food before devouring Panthers

Photo by Steph Chambers/Getty Images The Seattle Seahawks improved to 2-1, outscoring the Carolina Panthers 37-27. ***As most of you know, Cigar Thoughts is now a podcast. One of the perks of the pod is getting these articles in audio form, in addition to our sit-downs with our amazing guests. You can listen to all the shows, including this article, right here: — You’d be hard-pressed to ...2023
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• Here’s the 2023 Seattle Seahawks initial 53-man roster

Steven Bisig-USA TODAY Sports This is the Seahawks’ roster following the cutdown deadline, but it probably won’t be the same roster come opening day of the regular season. Tuesday was the deadline for all NFL teams to cut their rosters down from 90 to 53 players ahead of the start of the 2023 regular season. The Seattle Seahawks have made their difficult decisions and trimmed their roster,...2023
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• BREAKING: Broncos will release quarterback Russell Wilson

Photo by Justin Edmonds/Getty Images It has been reported the Denver Broncos will release veteran quarterback Russell Wilson at the start of the league year. According to the Denver Broncos, they will release veteran quarterback Russell Wilson at the start of the league year. This move has long been expected after the team benched him after this embarrassing Christmas Eve loss to the New E...2024
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• Seahawks also cut Will Dissly

Jay Biggerstaff-USA TODAY Sports The Seattle cap situation continues to unfold ahead of Mike Macdonald’s first season as coach. John Schneider wasn’t finished. After the Seattle Seahawks released starting safeties Quandre Diggs and Jamal Adams, moments later news came that tight end Will Dissly has also been cut. The #Seahawks are also releasing veteran TE Will Dissly, per source. Seat...2024
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• Seahawks' Noah Fant discusses trade from Broncos, Seattle QB battle and the new chip on his shoulder
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• Cigar Thoughts: The Final Chapter
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 12: Seahawks and Jets do a bunch of drugs, see what happens

Vincent Carchietta-Imagn Images The Seattle Seahawks win an insane football game over the New York Jets, improving to 7-5 and securing their lead in the NFC West It’s funny, last week’s Seattle Seahawks game against the Arizona Cardinals carried much higher leverage than today’s game against the Jets did, but I was remarkably placid as I watched it. I think it’s because, even after the win...2024
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• John Schneider’s mistakes in assembling the Seahawks’ 2024 roster

Joe Nicholson-Imagn Images The Seahawks have major roster holes in Schneider’s first season without Pete Carroll, and one glaring flaw at a familiar position. Since January 2010, it has been impossible to think of the Seattle Seahawks without associating them with Pete Carroll and John Schneider. Well, that changed at the beginning of the 2024 season when the longtime head coach was remove...2024
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 2: Never a doubt

Photo by Adam Glanzman/Getty Images The Seattle Seahawks outlasted the New England Patriots 23-20 in overtime to move to 2-0, and first place in the NFC West. ***As most of you know, Cigar Thoughts is now a podcast. Check out this week’s conversation with Mike Golic Jr: — Gonna get something off my chest before we get to this game. It’s been a real trendy thing among some Seahawks fans to...2024
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 3: Seahawks play with their food before devouring Panthers
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• How do you feel about the Russell Wilson trade, one year later?
Photo by Tom Hauck/Getty Images So far, it’s advantage Seahawks in the Russell Wilson trade. We’ve now reached the one-year anniversary of the Seattle Seahawks making the monumental decision to trade Russell Wilson to the Denver Broncos for two first-round picks, two second-round picks, Noah Fant, Shelby Harris, and Drew Lock. The greatest quarterback in Seahawks franchise history and one ...2023
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• Mile High Morning: Pro Football Focus predicts top-10 fantasy season for Noah Fant among tight ends
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• Mile High Morning: Drew Lock, Noah Fant selected as second-year fantasy football breakout candidates
The addition of several offensive weapons for the Broncos could pay dividends for Lock and Fant in fantasy football....2020
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• The biggest training camp battles to watch for the Cincinnati Bengals
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• Bengals Training Camp Day 2 and Noah Fant Watch open thread

Kareem Elgazzar/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK Will Noah Fant be part of Bengals training camp soon? Greetings, Cincinnati Bengals fans! Day 2 of training camp is set to begin soon. Gates open at 9:30 AM ET, and practice begins at 10 AM through noon (go here for more details on attending Bengals training camp). We’re also on #NoahFantWatch, so come chat about it and everything else Benga...2025
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• Bengals News (7/24): How to end Trey Hendrickson contract dispute
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• Bengals to host Noah Fant for a free agent visit
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• Seahawks release veteran TE Noah Fant in cost-cutting move before training camp

Seattle clears around $9 million in cap space by releasing Fant...2025
• Seahawks release starting tight end Noah Fant

Photo by Nic Antaya/Getty Images Fant was due over $8 million in non-guaranteed salary. The Seattle Seahawks have made a major roster move ahead of the start of training camp. Starting tight end Noah Fant was released on Sunday, ending a three-year run with the team after being acquired from the Denver Broncos in the Russell Wilson trade. There had been rumors that Fant was being shopped i...2025
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• Big game hunting: Should the Seahawks trade for Jalen Ramsey?
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• A way too early 53 man roster projection for Seahawks on offense

Photo by Steph Chambers/Getty Images After taking a shot at projecting the 2025 Seattle roster for the defense, here is a look at the offensive side of the ball. No point beating around the bush, because everyone is here for the projections, so here is a way too early shot at predicting the 2025 Seattle Seahawks roster on the offensive side of the ball. Quarterback (3): Keep: Sam Darnold...2025
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• PFF ranks Seahawks receiving corps as worst in NFC West
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• Daniel Jeremiah has Seahawks taking Michigan star in new mock draft

Photo by James Black/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images Colston Loveland mocked to Seahawks in Jeremiah Mock Draft 3.0 NFL Draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah has released his third mock draft of the 2025 offseason. In his first mock draft, he had the Seattle Seahawks taking Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle out of Michigan. For the second mock draft, Jeremiah had the Seahawks taking Grey Zabel, of...2025
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• Seahawks Film Analysis: Dream or nightmare? Sam Darnold is the Seahawks’ new QB
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 12: Seahawks and Jets do a bunch of drugs, see what happens
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• Cody White: Blocker of punts, winner of hearts

Photo by Alika Jenner/Getty Images You’re probably not alone, even the NFL social media account hadn’t heard of Cody White before his breakout performance. Cody White had played 201 total snaps before Week 9 against the Los Angeles Rams. He came out of that game as the second most interesting player on the field for the Seattle Seahawks. Who is Cody White?! With DK Metcalf and Noah Fant ...2024
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 7: Seahawks lead wire-to-wire in must-win game against Falcons
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 4: Seahawks go 12 rounds with Lions, lose unanimously

Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images The Detroit Lions traded punches with the Seattle Seahawks all night, outlasting them 42-29 in a game that moves both teams to 3-1. ***As most of you know, Cigar Thoughts is also a podcast. Check out this week’s conversation with Danny Kelly: — This was going to be a cool game no matter what. The last two matchups between the Seattle Seahawks and the D...2024
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 3: Seahawks yank Dolphins out of water

Photo by Steph Chambers/Getty Images The Seattle Seahawks led wire to wire, beating the Miami Dolphins 24-3, moving to 3-0 in the process. ***As most of you know, Cigar Thoughts is now a podcast. Check out this week’s conversation with Mitch Levy: — One thing NFL fans seem to struggle with, collectively, is seeing the forest for the trees. The Seattle Seahawks came into this game 2-0 but ...2024
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• Cigar Thoughts, Game 7: Seahawks honor their heritage with heart-stopping victory on Throwback Day

Steven Bisig-USA TODAY Sports The Seattle Seahawks scored the game-winning touchdown with less than a minute left to beat the Cleveland Browns 24-20, moving into first place in the NFC West ***As most of you know, Cigar Thoughts is now a podcast. One of the perks of the pod is getting these articles in audio form, in addition to our sit-downs with our amazing guests— like this week’s conve...2023
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